I’ve been shooting a ton with the Fujifilm X-H2 lately and finding major problems with the autofocus system when photographing even slowly-moving subjects. The X-T5 is weeks from release, but since Fuji has already stated that it has the same sensor and autofocus system as the X-H2, my problems with autofocus are likely to exist on that camera as well.
First, I want to say that if you’re a nature and landscape photographer, I think you’re going to be fine. The autofocus system works well for most of those kinds of shots, including using the continuous autofocus system on wide-tracking. It’s also fine for people photography if the people are not going to be moving.
However, for those of us who also photograph a lot of people, and especially moving ones at events and weddings, the autofocus system is not performing as promised.
The problems stem from the “eye/face” autofocus system. I told people about my problems with the X-H2 on YouTube, and was told that I was probably dealing with a faulty body. So I immediately went out and purchased a second body to test out and the problems are exactly the same across both bodies and multiple lenses.
First of all, my settings. I’m using continuous autofocus, wide/tracking and the eye focus on auto (which means that if it can’t find an eye it will instead just focus on the face). I’m using the default focusing algorithm, but in my testing I’ve adjusted both tracking and movement sensitivity in the system without any seeming improvement in the autofocus.
When I’m taking these photos, I’m keeping my shutter speed above 1250 to be absolute sure that what I’m seeing isn’t some kind of camera or subject movement blur.
The autofocus system continuously gives me an indication that the photographs are “in focus.” I’m getting a green box around the eye continuously from the camera. I think this is why most people told me that I’m either incompetent or had a faulty camera. These cameras give us a false sense of confidence because it’s basically telling us each shot is in perfect focus when they are not. In my testing of several thousands of these kinds of photographs, I’m missing about 30% on the Fuji. On other bodies, such as the Sony A7iv or Canon’s new APS-C R7, I’m getting closer to missing 5% or less of the shots in these exact same situations and similar settings (eye focus, wide/tracking, continuous autofocus).
Here are multiple photographs on the Fujifilm X-H2 in a series showing this phenomenon on slowly moving or not-moving subjects with the above settings and using the 33mm f/1.4 from Fuji, who states that this lens was made for this 40-megapixel sensor:
In comparison, here is a similar sequence with the Sony A7iv, in which every shot is in focus.
Neither camera is a “stacked” sensor, and both cameras were giving me an indication that the eye or face was in focus the entire time.
Here is another series of images from my second copy of the X-H2 using the 50-140 lens:
Again, I’ve adjusted my autofocus in multiple ways, trying different sensitivities throughout, with no discernible difference. In each of these situations, the in-camera indicator is telling me that the focus is nearly 100% on the eye or face.
Just to test things out further, the “bird” autofocus system seems to work well at first glance, identifying and tracking birds acceptably in these examples (admittedly from a complete newbie at photographing birds).
However, when the bird gets in a situation with any kind of competition, such as these leaves on the ground, the camera fails to track more often than hitting focus. I shot with the same settings as those listed above, but with my focus tracking sensitivity on “locked on” and the speed tracking on medium-moving subjects. This is a series from a cardinal on the ground:
As you can see, the camera’s autofocus system completely loses the subject in the leaves.
Honestly, take those bird examples with a grain of salt. I’m not a birder.
However, I’m an experienced wedding and portrait photographer with a few hundred weddings under my belt and way more portrait sessions. In recent years I’ve grown to trust the eye-tracking autofocus systems on bodies from Canon and Sony to the point where I’ve almost switched systems completely multiple times. The X-H2 was the camera I was hoping to help me completely ditch my thoughts of using other systems and go fully with Fuji.
It seems like Fuji’s autofocus system has, in these situations at least, a major problem tracking with a high degree of accuracy in situations with busy backgrounds (especially when compared to competitive cameras like the A7iv, Canon R7 and R10).
Just as an “FYI” for those thinking my body is not working, I bought two, and the problems are the same on both bodies:
I consistently noticed that the camera was focusing, without reason, on elements in the background for several random shots before trying to focus on the face again.
Fuji needs to fix this. The X-T5 is already looking to be a popular camera, with interest levels that are very high on camera review sites… Letting event and wedding photographers down like this will be like a gut punch to them, and since the X-T5 proves to be a popular camera for hobbyists who take photographs of their families in different situations, if things remain the same they are going to have far too many out-of-focus photographs compared to the competition.
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I just came across you YouTube and I’ve subscribed
I can’t go into a lot of detail now but coming up the food chain from Pro2 to 3, then XH1 to XT4 all for improvements in AF I now have an XH2S. Crazy good AF. Using C-AF, single point focus and eye/face I keep up with a 7 year old showing me how high she can kick over and over. The HS2 with the new 56mm at 1.2 never leaves her eye. The other details of how the camera is set I can try to remember. I wonder if this comes down to settings or the speed of the stacked sensor.
Hey, Neil! Thanks for subscribing. I agree that the X-H2s is pretty amazing, and I can’t imagine you coming from the XH1 to this! That must be a huge difference. I just got the 56 1.2 WR a few days ago, so I’ll be doing more with it, but what I see so far rocks!
I saw another video of yours on Youtube about XH2/T5 focus concerns. Any chance you could try an XH2S for a bit and see if it is a stacked vs unstacked sensor thing? I’m finding the AF and eye detection on the S just silly good.
I went from an XH1 to an XT4 to an XH2S Baby steps.
Yep – I’m going to be doing one. Thanks for checking out my content, Neil!
Just an input for the focus issue.
This morning I tried to photograf the moon/mars line-up with my X-T5 and the Fujinon XF 55-200. And what I experienced was, that all though it was in manual mode, it still drifted in focus, as if the autofocus was still on. Have you tried focusing on a fixed subject with manual focus? Just curious to see if Fuji has a general problem here… 🙂
Oh, wow, Steen. No, I have not seen that yet! That’s… VERY strange behavior! Keep me updated, and let me know how I can help!
Thanks for posting on the AF issues with the XH2. I’ve also been having the same problem and it feels like my XT3 Af is more reliable. My old workhorse 90mm has stopped focusing beyond 30ft and this was never an issue with the XT3. Even within 30ft I will still get many blurry images. Extremely disappointed, Fuji please fix.
Dang, Paul! That’s not good. Does the 90 still work beyond 30 feet on the X-T3?
yes… autofocus is very bad…. too much bad…. i am wedding photographer, disappointing this camera. …………………………………………………………………………………………. 😂😂😂😂🤣
Yes – I’m missing about 30% of face shots too with my new X-H2. Even when subject is still, in good light.
Na 14 dagen mijn XH2 weer terug gebracht naar fotozaak waar ik het had gekocht.
Doe veel aan straatfotografie , 50 % van mijn foto waren niet scherp.
Ben nu een bezitter van een Nikon Z711 en na nu nog geen missers meer gehad.
Fuji moet nu eens serieus wat aan Af doen bij het volgen mensen die in beweging zijn
I agree – 50% is not a good keeper rate. Good luck!
Even when the subject is not moving, I experience kind of backfocus. It shows me that it is in focus on the eye closest to the camera, but when I look at my images, the images are sharp on the eye that is furthest away from the camera. It does this in both eye-tracking, wide and in eye without tracking.
I get the same on the X-T5 with the newest prime lenses. Even with the subject standing still looking straight at the camera I get zero in-focus, even though the little green box tracks the eye.
This was the whole reason I bought the X-T5 in the first place, so it’s a big disappointment.
Hi, Just bought the X-H2, I use it for birding and insects. the first time I using it with 150-600, the camera have problems finding the subject and cannot tracking at all. then I check with the offical site and upgrade the firmware. seems the problem is fixed after upgraded. last weekend i just go and shot on flying gulls, and more than 90% sharp on eyes. with sunny day, speed on 1/1600, f/8, iso is around 400 ~ 800.. (using bird eyes and full tracking), mount of tripole. Will try some later.